[net1]-- Once again, Gary Mosher (aka XODP Editor arttworks the unrecommended) has
stormed off from a less-than-civil discussion/argument with me, and it's just as
well. By virtue of my willingness to descend into the Mosher Pit with Gary,
there are those who would argue that I am part of the problem. Of course, that
assumption begs the question of whether there is a problem and leaves open the
question of what, exactly, the problem is.
According to the inimitable arttworks the unrecommended, people like me are the
problem. To wit, arttworks asserted in his (most recent) departing post that I
"finally made the concession that he perceives the public financing of libraries
to be no more meritorious than the public financing of golf courses." For those
of you who care enough to check the facts, it is relatively easy to discern that
arttworks is casting my comments in a false light. (I.e., I specifically stated
that "I see a much more clear and palpable benefit being derived from government
funding for libraries, so I am less likely to complain about it.." No surprise
there. Arttworks has a relatively short attention span, and he has very little
interest in what other people actually think. Rather, he is almost exclusively
concerned with proving God-knows-what to whomever-may-care.
[art2]-- From: http://donotgo.com/Blogs/netart.htm
..."To be clear, I am not in favor of government funding for libraries
any more than I am in favor of government funding for public golf
courses or roller derby competitions. However, I see a much more clear
and palpable benefit being derived from government funding for
libraries, so I am less likely to complain about it"....
With friends like you, libraries don't need enemies.
[net1]-- WhatIs arttworks trying to prove? Or rather, arttworks is trying to prove
WhatIs, a "better way" of indexing the Internet. Incidental to a proof of the
merits of WhatIs is a proof, apparently only to arttworks, of how corrupt and
fatally flawed the current state of Internet indexing actually is. To be clear,
I actually agree with arttworks when it comes to the broad strokes. To wit, I
think that (1) the merits of implementing a WhatIs system are self-evident and
(2) the current state of Internet indexing leaves much to be desired. For the
most part, the disagreements that arttworks and I have are not a matter of kind,
but of degree.
If there is a particular kind of disagreement that arttworks and I have, it is
the degrees to which we believe the search industry is broken and the degrees to
which we will go to fix it. Moreover, when it comes to online marketing and
search engine optimization, I am not above selling my time and my talents to
those whom I deem worthy of my assistance. At the same time, I am also willing
to do pro bono promotional work for those whose people whose online presence is
not commercial in nature.
According to arttworks, the disagreements that he and I have had about the
degrees to which the Internet indexing industry is broken, and the degrees to
which I am willing to go to effect change, make me a "chaos pimp." According to
me, arttworks is a self-aggrandizing narcissist whose interest in effecting
change is nowhere near as important as proving to himself that he is a better
person than the people who have been successful at making their mark on the
world.
[art2]-- Although I won't concede to any of your characterization's of my
"character". I will concede, and have publicly acknowledged, that I am
a rotten advocate. In a http://donotgo.com/talk/messages/11/25.html
recent message board post I put it this way "I am feeling humble and
quite disappointed in myself for being such a poor advocate that I
cannot sell an idea as logical as sliced bread." Unfortunately, who
else does the issue have? Googlewatch is too narrowly focused and too
much a linkless dead-end to be of any use... and outside of it, what
else is there? I might be a near illiterate idiot... but I know that
not much changes in a vacuum.
[net3]-- During a recent visit to Google Watch, I stumbled upon an article by Cheryl
Woodard that put the spotlight on one of Google's most fatal flaws. (See <
http://www.google-watch.org/woodard.html >.) To wit, Google's search results
are too commercial. When I stumble upon articles like this, I will occasionally
chronicle them here at XODP and bring them to the attention of XODP's 170 or so
active subscribers and God-knows-how-many lurkers. On this note, while checking
out online references to XODP, I found that one of my recent posts announcing
the debut of the Corrupt DMOZ Editor Blog had already started to obtain some
traction at the Site Library Community. (<
http://www.sitelibrary.net/community/viewnews/504 >.)
Notwithstanding the joy that I obtain from occasional acknowledgement of my
commentary, I long ago came to terms with the fact that I, like all human
beings, am more or less helpless before the forces of nature and society.
[art4]-- How helpless any one individual is, I think is a open question, that
no soothsayer can close with any authority.
[net5]-- I wholeheartedly disagree, and through the ages many great thinkers from
Ecclesiastes to Emerson have stated the truth on this matter quite clearly:
"I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are
meaningless, a chasing after the wind. What is twisted cannot be straightened;
what is lacking cannot be counted. . . . Then I applied myself to the
understanding of wisdom, and also of madness and folly, but I learned that this,
too, is a chasing after the wind. For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the
more knowledge, the more grief."
(Ecclesiastes 1:14-18.)
"Life invests itself with inevitable conditions, which the unwise seek to dodge,
which one and another brags that he does not know; that they do not touch him; -
but the brag is on his lips, the conditions are in his soul."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson, _Compensation_.)
[art6]-- Excessively gratuitous quotation of the long dead, is really a cheap
debate tactic.
[net7]-- I wholeheartedly disagree. Indeed, excessively gratuitous quotation of the long
dead is a fairly effective way of demonstrating that the problems that we are
experiencing today are substantially similar to the problems that people have
experienced throughout history, and that if we have learned anything from
history it is that we have learned nothing from history.
[art8]-- This is just cheap empty rhetoric that probably qualifies as
mindless drivel. The fact that there are some "dilemmas" of
existence--namely the problem of crude origins and its theoretical
pointlessness-- that do transcend time and space does not mean we have
not made substantial progress or learned from history.
[net9]-- What a truly incoherent jumble of thoughts.
[art10]-- Maybe some artfully added "to wits'" will unjumble it for you.
There are facts of life that knowledge and invention cannot change
--to wit-- the fact that we are the spawn of green slime and that we
were not invented to serve a purpose--
[net11]-- As I suspected, your incoherent thoughts were making a not-so-artful reference
to what existential humanists refer to as the dichotomies of human existence.
[art12]-- In part, I made the above referenced joke, because I have no
interest in discussing or debating distinctions and classifications
made by existential humanists. My point is relatively simple--to wit--
there's no physical natural law stopping us from rising above our
crude origins.... and the point really doesn't require any
dichotomizing.
[net13]-- I'll concede this point. To wit, there's nothing stopping us -- as individuals
-- from rising above our crude origins. However, whenever a good idea becomes
too popular, it is inevitably corrupted and diluted by the masses to the point
where its original proponents would not recognize it, much less claim it as
their own.
[art14]-- Do I really have to compile some stupid list of all the "good
ideas" in human history that have not been "inevitably corrupted"?
[net15]-- I'm really not sure who's more to blame here for letting this discussion get so
far afield from anything even remotely akin to how the Internet should be
indexed, but there comes a point when someone just has to say enough is enough
and stop bear baiting. Besides, as I am wont to say, I am under no obligation
to save anyone from his or her ignorance, and I have no desire to do so.
[art14]-- ...how about we just stick with the acutely relevant examples like FREE
PUBLIC LIBRARIES certainly no abundant or inevitable corruption
there-- although I think they are a bit archaic and we should
modernize the investment into something more practical in the 21st
century like a WAHTIS database. Another kind of clean example of good
government would be the "do not call" list --not exactly festering
with corruption. etc.
[net15]-- As I have stated before, if a budget ballot were instituted, then you might be
able to get the additional funding for public libraries that you think is so
essential to the implementation of your WHATIS database. Until that time, you
are and will remain a voice in the wilderness.
[art16]-- I have suggested a few possible funding methods, I think the least of which was the implication that "additional funding" should be provided to public libraries. -- I stated quite emphatically that would be my preference that the organization that would maintain the whatis database have only this narrow exclusive role and no unnecessary affiliations.
[net17]-- Your thoughts on funding for your WHATIS proposal are not particularly clear,
other than the very general idea that "the government" should fund it.
Assuming, _arguendo_, that "the government" ever does fund your WHATIS proposal,
the implementation will be very problematic and bear little resemblance to your
proposal. Part of the problem is that when pinned down on specifics, your
proposal is just as vague and impractical as your ideas on funding.
[art18]-- """the merits of implementing a WhatIs system are self-
evident""" YET it's all "vague and impractical" -- a nice clear bit
of slug slime.
[net19]-- It's all a matter of context. At first blush, the idea of enhancing the WHOIS
database to include WHATIS data fields for site title, site description,
keywords, etc. is one of self-evident merit. The problems of vagueness and
impracticality arise when you start talking about creating and funding a new
government agency to implement the idea.
[art16]--A "budget ballot" would only increase the need for public awareness
and support and therefore could only harm the cause. The only
gimmicks that are going to help this idea are ones that provide
public awareness and exposure. As I implied earlier --give me an
audience for 10 minutes-- and the idea will sell itself. Even you
have acknowledged that the wisdom is kind of self-evident. Public
exposure will get it on the national policy agenda regardless of any
democracy enhancements.
[net17]-- A straw man argument at best. To wit, I have repeatedly given you a very
practical example of how a budget ballot was actually carried out in the real
world, and you have deliberately ignored it in favor of a pointlessly complex
model. Even so, the merits of a budget ballot is an ancillary issue that has
very little relevance to your WHATIS proposal, which must sink or swim on its
own merits. Ditto for the merits of direct democracy in general.
[net18]-- The last half of Bill Clintons' presidency was torpedoed by a
loose lips--sink your ship-- fat girl. As I implied earlier I don't
think much in our present culture sinks or swims based on "merit".
The "facts" and the "merits" seldom get fair exposure and google is
just another disgusting extension of a "media system" where the truth
is irrelevant.
As 60 minutes deserves a little beating up after that propaganda
fluff piece they did on Google-- here's another example of how the
media's "merit" system works. More than five years ago (not
coincidentally, around the same time I stopped watching) 60 minutes
provided a demonstration of how a ark of biblical proportions would
be seaworthy by placing a "real world" model made out of Popsicle
sticks in a tub of water-- obviously they didn't read my viewer
letter "on air" which pointed out that there are only about 6000 laws
of physics that made this demonstration absolutely useless as a
source of understanding of any practical reality-- other than the
reality that propaganda works.
Your "very practical example" of a working "budget ballot" is a
similarly flawed experiment, and un-useful if not useless. In my
opinion you have not even overcome the theoretical challenges (ie.
public/voter ignorance) that negate the usefulness of "referendums"
in general... so it is impossible for you to even construct a "very
practical" example.
[net19]-- I will not chase this red herring any further. It is a distraction that has
little or no relevance to the merits of your WHATIS proposal.
[net13]-- ...Indeed, some would say that the Internet is a prime example of a
good idea gone bad -- i.e, it has become much too commercialized. I wouldn't go
that far, but I would say that the Internet has a tremendous potential for good
that remains more or less unrealized because commercial speech is drowning out
other worthwhile voices.
[art14]-- What "some" is saying the "good idea gone bad" stuff ? --I
could use some good leads.
[art10]-- ... to wit-- we substitute natures
crude programming "me hungry--me eat.... me scared to die--me live"
for the absent of rational purpose the purposeless crude forces of
creation could not provide-- to wit-- the mere fact that we exist
foolishly becomes a justification for existence, and the mere fact
that we want becomes a foolish justification to take--to wit-- silly
humans end up living like dumb rats, chasing stale cheese, in stupid
mazes-- Fortunately to wit-- none of these liabilities of our
imperfect lineage prevent the best of the human race from stepping
outside the maze to learn from history and invent a better future.
[net11]-- Sounds like a recapitulation of the ideals espoused by Friedrich Nietzsche.
[art12]-- Whatever... Apparently you see some productive purpose in
using some "notables of history" algorithm to sift and pigeonhole
every thought articulated. I personally find it offensive and
irritating and think it is a pretty unproductive and cheap debate
tactic... theoretically using this device you could associate anyone
who says the sun rises in the east with Adolf Hitler because Adolf
Hitler once said so.
[net11]-- ... But
I stand behind my original supposition: The primary source of all the world's
problems is that people do not know how to mind their own business.
[art12]-- If we analogize "people" as "players in the game" it is
perfectly sensible that the players would have an interest, and say,
in what the rules of the game will be.
[net13]-- It is also perfectly sensible that some players might not want to play the game
at all.
[art14]-- Well if we all had the right to say, I don't wanna play by the
rules anymore, the average president would have a life span of about
10 minutes and we all would have dioxin leaching out of our eyes.
[net13]-- ... Indeed, until very recently, America's wealthiest citizens were
renouncing their U.S. citizenship and moving to other countries where they were
not subject to the same tax burden.
[art14]-- A reconstitution of the Salem Rich Trials would be appropriate
justice for these turds.
[net13]-- ... Congress has now eliminated that option by
forcing wealthy expatriates to continue paying income taxes whether or not they
remain U.S. citizens.
[art14]-- You play here, you pay here....Period
[art12]-- ...You have some crude power
theory where, money makes might, might makes right, and therefore we
should all be slaves to some Hillton slut.
[net13]-- I think you're confusing me with Ayn Rand.
[art14]-- well all you aristo-tics look-alike to me...kind of like
cockroaches.
[net13]-- ...I do not for one second believe that
the amount of money someone has or doesn't have is a meaningful measure of their
virtue.
[art14]-- I don't remember "virtue" having anything to do with anything
being discussed. The point isn't whether the obscenely wealthy are
virtuous (which I would claim, by the way, is impossible-- the old eye
of the needle, going to hell thing) the point is, money is power and
it should be distributed proportionately based on a rational
definition of "earned" or deserved.
[net13]-- ...Rather, I think that quite a few people are unjustly rewarded with ill
gotten gains. Even so, I don't think this entitles or obligates me or anyone
else to steal from the rich and give to the poor.
[art14]-- Right... progressive taxation (and the taxation of completely
unproductive unearned inheritance) is "stealing", and abortion is
"murder". Dogma of the dimwitted.
[art12]-- ...I argue that this rule has
not been written on any stone by any God and that We The People have a
right to negotiate for more rational rules.
[net13]-- And I would argue that We The People need to mind our own business and stop
worrying about whether someone else has too much money.
[art14]-- repeat after me A..B..C..D... money is POWER... money is
OWNERSHIP (of resources and people)... money is CONTROLL!!!
[net13]-- ...Notwithstanding the
fact that many wealthy people have been rewarded with ill gotten gains and use
the machinery of government to keep would-be entrepreneurs in check, there is
still plenty of economic opportunity in the world,
[art14]-- No, what there is plenty of is exploitable desperation. And
unless you're willing to be a disgusting exploitalist you have no
competitive hope of securing a seat in any ivory tower.
[net13]-- ...and if We The People spent
half as much time and energy generating our own wealth as we do trying to take
someone else's wealth, the world would be a much happier place.
[art14]--No it would be France before the revolution... 3% haves, 97%
have nots.
[art12]-- ...I would suggest that we
apply the "scientific method" and attempt to develop social rules that
inspire greatness and secure fairness as best we can understand it --
the fact that some religious nuts are lobbying to have the rules
defined using a Ouija board isn't a liability of democracy I have a
responsibility to defend to be spared the indignity of being broad
brushed as one of them.
[net11]-- ... Instead,
they go around trying to fix other people's problems, and said other people go
around trying to "fix them," so to speak. I'm sure you know the type: Rather
than use their own time and resources to feed the hungry and/or build a better
mousetrap, they lobby congress to tax the rich, feed the poor, subsidize their
pet projects, and wage war against Third World countries, all for the betterment
of society as a whole.
[art12]-- More useless broad brushing! The extremes of let's say-- seed
money for the Peace Corps ( uncorrupted by CIA infiltration) and
Halliburton War Pork really can't be rationally thrown in the same
bucket.
[net13]-- Yes, they can, and I will continue to throw them into the same bucket
[art14]-- What caused your retardation?... you get hit in the head with
a golf ball at the public library when you were a kid?
[net13]-- ...until
every citizen of the United States is given the right to vote their share of tax
revenue to the things that they think really matter -- like roller derby, golf
courses, and public libraries.
[art14]-- So instead of money just meaning control, you would like it to
mean utterly complete control...
[net15]-- What a total _non sequitur_! You're the one who's crying about the need for
additional funding for public libraries and/or the implementation of your WHATIS
proposal. A budget ballot would give you the opportunity to allocate your share
of the per capita tax revenue to whatever programs you considered worthwhile.
[art16]--A "budget ballot" is basically policy by referendum. Extensive
big-money-financed lobbying would decide what gets on the ballot --
and would shape everything into deceptive legal language to provide
exploitable loopholes. Then after it's decided what will be on the
ballot, a whole new round of financed propaganda would be used to
dumb down every ballot issue in to simplistic jargon that would have
nothing to do with actual consequences. For example, look at
the "popular rhetoric" surrounding the issue of Social Security
privatization -- just a bunch of mush that denies social security's
reality as an insurance program, and not a pension program--
Greenspan sensibly called it a zero-sum game as it will do nothing to
more efficiently provide for the long retirement of the long living
and disabled. It's just a stupid shell game yet there is every
prospect that it may become national policy and the next three or
four years. Money bought propaganda works!
I believe it is an alterable practical fact that individual voters
are unlikely as a group to do the researching and hard thinking that
is required to make an informed decision on complex issues. But
regular citizens can research, and fully understand the competence
of, their representative who they should sensibly expect will make
understanding the complexity of issues his full-time job. Bottom
line, in my opinion, representative government makes much more sense
than government by referendum.
[art12]-- ...Your rigid dogma is certainly showing when you spout this
silly "all government is bad" simplistic tripe.
[net13]-- I don't believe that "all government is bad," but I do think that people who
turn to the omnipotent cult of the state when seeking progressive social change
are clearly barking up the wrong tree.
[art14]-- Right, they should just Bark to the wind and wait for Santa
Claus to come reengineer the social order.
[net13]-- ...Truth be told, I believe that government
can provide a useful framework for organizing opposition to would-be despots and
tyrants.
[art14]-- I think that theory lost credibility when Bill Gates slipped
past the long arm of the law. The election of GWB finished it off with
about 500 billion coffin nails.
[net13]-- ...However, no matter how many "democratic safeguards" are put into
place, government is frequently captured by would-be despots and tyrants.
[art14]-- Sure... Anarchy were the rich own everything including all the
guns, bullets, and pitchforks would make a lot more sense.
[art12]-- This debate originated
with my claim that Internet Infrastructure/System design needs
attention and reinforcing-- because it is in fact flawed by sloppiness
in design. It is a fact that similar flaws in infrastructure System
Design / PlayingFieldRules exist in other areas of life. I argue that
we should apply our best judgment and our sincerest motivation to
fixing all the imbecilic waste-- you argue that the chaos of
"survivalist" cannibalism creates efficient design.
[net13]-- Yet another straw man argument. I have never argued anything even remotely
similar to this bizarre and incoherent assertion. What I have said (and
continue to say) is that there is plenty of room for improvement in the way that
the Internet is indexed, and if someone thinks that he or she knows of a better
way to index the Internet, they should go ahead and do it.
[art14]-- it will have to wait until after I build my own satellite
launch facilities and my own Inter-State railway system. Oh yes and my
own PUBLICLY FINANCED LIBRARY Network. Can't you get the simple point
that some elements of infrastructure cannot be practically challenged
by any capitalizable for-profit alternative-- ...
[net15]-- Once again, a total _non sequitur_. Assuming, _arguendo_, that an
infrastructure needs improving, you still have to convince the people who hold
the public purse strings that your idea for improving it is worth funding.
That's how railroads first got built across America; that's how public highways
first got built across America; and that's how the Internet got built across
America and the world. So, if you want government funding for your WHATIS
proposal, you should be writing your congressional representatives rather than
exchanging red herrings with me.
[art16]--"congressional representatives" don't initiate policy unless they
are "paying back" the political influence their contributors have
purchased. Unpurchased policy must be demanded by the people (voters)
first. I don't think interstate railroads or highways or the Hoover
Dam was built because some constituent wrote a letter. These things
happened because the government was made aware of a problem-- and
solicited the advice of knowledgeable, unbiased professionals to
solve it. Four years ago the government solicited advice regarding
the Internet and paid the National Academy of Sciences $800,000 to
provide it. Unfortunately, as I've stated in other forums-- there are
no scientist anymore-- and as your father learned, we're allowing a
lot of shameless money whores masquerade as objective professional
and devoted scientists.
http://www7.nationalacademies.org/dns/
[net17]-- Congratulations: You have found the perfect excuse for giving up before you
even try. Instead, you can spend the rest of your life crying in the wilderness
about what a great idea you have and how self-evident its merits are.
[art18]-- "the merits of implementing a WhatIs system are self-evident"
the slug cried to the chirping crickets... Just because, I've learned
through long tedious experience (I could wallpaper the House with
patronizing form letter replies regarding other issues of merit from
congressional representatives) that the seeds of knowledge and
inspiration can find no fertile ground in the egomaniacal mind
of "politicians"-- I don't think you're being fair to suggest I've
given up without trying. Regardless of what you think of my skills as
an advocate, I think I at least deserve the concession that I have
invested some hard time (5 stinking years) and earned my tears.
[net9]-- In other words, rather than seeking to accomplish your original goals, you are
now seeking recognition for what you tried in vain to accomplish. Good luck
with that.
[art14]-- ...similarly you don't
attempt to rebuild an entire car because the one you have has four
flat tires --you just make the needed repairs and move on to the next
life challenge.... you imbecile!
[art12]-- ... I don't think you
have to sit long in New York City traffic looking at ugly dirty city
streets to know who's talking out of what orifice.
[net9]-- ...I think what you mean by
"'dilemmas' of existence" is what Erich Fromm referred to as existential and/or
historical dichotomies. He distinguishes between the two by indicating that
existential dichotomies involve the inescapable nature of human existence (i.e.,
e.g., death) whereas historical dichotomies refer to abominable conditions and
situations that were once considered inescapable but have since been (or can be)
resolved -- i.e., e.g., slavery.
[art10]-- Well if I dicked some "hotomies" I must've been drunk because
I don't remember doing anything like that.-- I apologize to any
"hotomies" among the readership I may have inadvertently violated.
[net11]-- (BTW, dichotomy is pronounced "DIE"-"COT"-"OH"-"ME".)
[art12]-- I was apprehensive about making the dickotomy JOKE as I
anticipated my history of semi-illiteracy would invite this reply... I
made the joke in part because it is one of those stupid English words
that really could use a little redesigning... I mean dYchotomy would
from my perspective make a lot more sense.
[net9]-- ...In any event, I respectfully disagree with your assertion that we as a species
have "made substantial progress [and] learned from history,"
[art10]-- Well the "as a species" part does complicate the equation... I
mean are we as a species the best of our kind or the worst of our
kind-- are we as good as our best individual or as bad as our worst
minority population. I suppose some portion of our disagreement
involves the semantics of defining "we as a species". I would contend
that the best of humanity has acquired through enlightenment, and upon
sober reflection upon our history, a very deep, elegant, and beautiful
soul
[net11]-- I echo this sentiment.
[art10]-- ...I would speculate that removed from the momentum of the
cannibalistic opportunistic spam-haos (dogmas included) that we have
allowed to infect our civilizations that humanity isn't too many facts
short of reaching a kind of "intellectual actualization" where we will
know, all there is worth knowing.
[net9]-- ...but I also realize
that no amount of evidence that I could muster would be enough to overcome your
recalcitrant denial of the truth. To wit, technological progress has created at
least as many problems as it has solved, and when confronted with the same old
intractable problems that plague humanity, cultures througout history have
pretty much used the same old illusory solutions.
[art10]-- One of the first lessons of history is that knowledge and
invention does not evolve at some consistent rate. Although you
dispute the fact that progress is linear-- the fact is it is. And that
linear nature means it is foolish to assume that because something has
always been that it will always be-- we went from the invention of the
light bulb to putting a man on the moon in an incredibly short period
of time. The scientific knowledge gleaned in the last 200 years has a
thousand times the density of everything learned in the previous 100
centuries.
[net11]-- I don't dispute this; what I dispute is the assertion that an increase in
scientific knowledge is synonymous with progress. Indeed, over the last 200
years, most scientific knowledge has been used to increase the efficiency with
which war can be waged, resulting in no less than two world wars and the ongoing
spectre of weapons of mass destruction. Is that really progress?
[art12]-- This is like saying that because a lot of people don't read
the instructions-- and in turn can't get their DVD player to work--
that DVD players suck. Intellectual and technical progress provides
opportunity, it's not its fault we have chosen to answer the wrong
door. As stated before I don't think there's any natural physical law
requiring us to be assholes and it is my greatest frustration that I
think we are just a few changed perceptions away from sparing
ourselves the indignity.
[art10]-- ...The fact that humanity (generally) is having some trouble
gripping and comprehending all that we now know--is dangerous,
wastefull and frustrating-- but it does not mean that comprehension
will not come, and that we won't untract what is only seemingly
intractable.
[art8]-- ...Stupid rigid
dogma (like the mush that lies of the foundation of your philosophy
and a philosophy of the average religious nut) is generally on a
historic decline (with the exception of some lost Hitler-Reagan-Bush
decades)
[net9]-- The fact that you refer to me as someone who holds to "rigid dogma" is proof
positive that you do not know what my philosophical disposition is, much less
understand it. On the off chance that you actually care to know what my
philosophical disposition is, I will tell you: I am basically an existential
humanist, and I typically reject religious dogma in favor of reason and the
scientific method.
[art10]-- No one who respects the scientific method would imply that it
is only a source of circular useless futile knowledge and progress
.... that is the perception of the hear, speak and see no scientific
truth "rigid" religious zealot.
[net9]-- ...In any event, I wholeheartedly disagree with your assertion that "rigid dogma .
. . is generally on a historic decline." As a matter of fact, most people
embrace and extol authoritarian values, either overtly or implicitly, and a
significant number of people in the world are very eager to live under a
theocratic regime.
[art10]-- I would argue that the depth of this faith has become quite
shallow. People patronize their fear but most aren't patronizing any
"real" God. Accept for a few lunatics willing to fly airplanes into
buildings there isn't much evidence that the average religious jerk
has any real confidence in their God theory and they seem quite
willing to subvert the dogma of their faith whenever it suits their
convenience. Of course oppressing others with their crap, doesn't cost
them anything, so they certainly are still willing to invest in good
old oppression of the other guys liberty. Put simply, my point is,
scientific enlightenment has substantially weakened the real hold
religious babble has on the mind of man and there is great potential
for a mass awakening from first century retardation.
[art8]-- ...We are steadily rising above our nature, and if we can
survive the barrier of doomsday technology, we will perfect our
collective understanding, and make ourselves worthy of description as
"intelligent beings". We may never be able to step beyond the simple
truth that life creates more brokeness than the living can fix ....but
we certainly can realize the best of our potential rather than the
worst.
[art6]-- ..I think if we dug up the great thinkers of history, and
could reanimate them, there would be a virtual consensus among them
that you don't let travel agents sideline in map making, and I think
they would see us as great fool's for squandering the potential of the
Internet.
[net7]-- Unlike you, I have actually dug up the great thinkers of history and read what
they have to say, and I can honestly say that there is no consensus among them.
Indeed, any and all debates on any and all topics are simply recapitulations of
debates that have been going on for centuries, with no end in sight.
[art8]-- In my opinion "the end" is very much in sight and the last
chapter will apparently have the stupidity of the arrogant deists and
capitalists written all over it.
[net9]-- Well, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. The "arrogant deists" wield a
significant amount of political power, as do most capitalists.
[art10]-- What??? I guess you misunderstood my point -- which was--
stupid capitalists and stupid religious nuts are going to get us all
killed in their stupid mindless moronick wars... last chapter, The End.
[net11]-- "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV
will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein
[art12]-- I do love Einstein quotes --but as implied previously, ideas
--not authorities-- should dictate the evolution of a debate.
[art8]-- ...Your pompous accusation that you are
"better read" regarding the historical record than I am demonstrates
your reckless disregard for the truth. To insanely argue that the
great minds of history would not reach consensus on the issue that it
is "unwise to allow location promoters to be mapmakers" demonstrates
your imbecility.... clearly and decisively!
[art6]-- ....As to the apparent point you are trying to make "that nothing changes"
and "resistance is futile" it's just preposterous mush.
[net7]-- I wholeheartedly disagree, but (as I am wont to say) I am under no obligation to
save anyone from his or her ignorance, and I have no desire to do so,
[art8]-- Of your bullshitatudes this mantra demonstrates just how void
of intelligent character you are. No "intelligent" man has "no desire"
to enlighten the ignorant....
[net9]-- I didn't say that I have "'no desire' to enlighten the ignorant." What I said
was that I am under no obligation to save anyone from his or her ignorance, and
I have no desire to do so. In other words, I readily acknowledge the fact that
not every lotus flower that I encounter is ready to emerge from the mud and
embrace the light.
[art10]-- Ahhhh I see you are familiar with the old lotus flower in the
mud ploy... Kato warm-up the SilverHornet I think the man has gone
very now-now.
[art8]-- ...A key component of "intelligence" is
knowledge of the innate value of truth and the inherent danger of
ignorance.
[net7]-- ...so if you
wish to labor under the foolish assumption that your zealous efforts at
muckraking will ever bring about lasting change in human nature, I wish you the
best of luck.
[art8]-- Apparently you don't read what the living write as carefully
as you read the dead. I pretty clearly stated that human nature is to
be overcomed, not changed. The simple truth that the Internet was
constructed on the fly and that the infrastructure of navigation
hasn't been thoughtfully or deliberately or purposefully designed to
allow the Internet to function at its greatest efficiency-- does not
require a change in human nature to understand.
[net9]-- I'll buy that. However, I don't think that most people consider this situation
to be a particularly urgent problem.
[art10]-- I read a recent survey that indicated that 65% of Internet
users don't know what a Blog is.
[net11]-- I can do you one better: I was at the Search Engine Strategies Conference and
Expo in Chicago last month, and I encountered people manning the booths at
Google who did not get the joke when I told them that I was having trouble
finding information about "French military victories" on Google.
[art12]-- The fact that Professional Googletts apparently don't Google,
Google, is pretty scary.
[art10]-- ...I suppose if people knew that there
was a problem I wouldn't be having such a hard time trying to sell a
solution. You keep regurgitating this notion of "the public's" opinion
as if it had some relevant meaning-- do you really think
whistle-blowers and advocates should sit around waiting for the public
to understand BEFORE they start explaining and advocating?
[net11]-- Actually, I don't think that whistle-blowers and advocates need to explain
anything.
[art12]-- ... and now for something preposterously silly.
[net11]-- ...Rather, if someone thinks they know of a better way to index the
Internet, then they should just get on with it.
[art12]-- You jerks keep barfing up this cheap rhetorical nonsense and
just keep ignoring the "rational evidence" that no fair minded person
could possibly slip on this stuff... I mean you can smell it a mile
away. For example I know of a better way to organize our democracy--
consistent with your BS rhetoric--is it your ludicrous suggestion that
I should forgo seeking public support, and public participation, and
just build a new democracy in my garage?
[net13]-- Interesting analogy. As I'm sure you've heard me say on more than one occasion,
I believe that a budget ballot is a long overdue democratic reform. To that
end, I wrote a paper on the topic for a law school class that I took covering
elections and political campaigns, and I have shared my research with a number
of people who I thought might be sympathetic to my views. On one occasion, the
idea was actually carried out by a quasi-political body representing some four
or five hundred constituents, and the results were very promising. Perhaps some
day when I have the time, I will seek private grant money to carry out more
research with other small quasi-political bodies, as I already have what funding
sources refer to as "proof of concept."
[art14]-- is the "proof of concept" for the "whois" database archived
somewhere? I will just glue on a couple of sequins and than you can
move on to the next inevitable hoop jumping suggestion.
[art12]-- ...We have probably been over
this a dozen times. I have made the clear concise comparison of my
idea, to publicly financed libraries and YOU made the analogy to
museums. These aren't things built in basements, garages or dorm
rooms with venture capital-- these are things built by "the people"
inspired by the common sense wisdom to know their is value in such
infrastructure investment.
[net11]-- ... However, my experience with
large scale databases is that they are nowhere near as easy to manage as some
people seem to think, and people who do have good ideas such as your WHATIS
proposal typically...
[art12]-- ...have to incessantly fight inch by inch through layers of bs
established by the entrenched, lazy, unimaginative, exploitivily
self-interested keepers of the sloppily organized status quo.
[net11]-- ... alienate everyone who might be interested in helping them get
it off the ground.
[art12]-- All this idea needs is the wind of popular exposure to get off
the ground. I don't have any copyright restrictions on the basic
idea-- if somebody is interested in helping-- they don't have to
suffer my alienating quirks of personality ...all they have to do is
grab the string and start running. I'm not stopping anyone from
"flying it" their way...... but that brings us back to the other
tediously debated truth, there are no idealists trying to fly any
better-world kites, so your alienation point is moot.
[net13]-- I wholeheartedly disagree. By virtue of my high profile presence as an
outspoken critic of ODP, I have been approached by quite a few people who are
enormously wealthy and yet extremely idealistic.
[art14]-- No "idealist" can possibly be sustainably described as
"enormously wealthy". Idealism demands a passion for efficiency --a
rich idealist would by logical necessity demand that their money do
the most possible good-- The first step a temporarily rich idealist
would take would be to convert their wealth into a foundation to
prevent the taxation of the do-gooder power as if it were personal
"profit". Even if an idealist could miss this first logical step
there's no way they could logically avoid the simple "idealist" truth
that no individual possesses sufficient "superiority" of contribution
or need to deserve ENORMOUS personal wealth and they would be
compelled to release the power of that wealth reservoir to do good in
the world.
[net13]-- ...Even so, I don't think WHATIS
needs funding as much as it just needs to be done. In other words, what exactly
is stopping you from setting up a WHATIS database of your own?
[art14]-- To do it right... a few million dollars and the popularization
[media exposure] of government sanction.
[net15]-- Well, I wouldn't hold your breath on either score. Why not just start with a PC
and MySQL? Or perhaps circulate a petition seeking a bond issue to cover the
cost of your investment in the Internet infrastructure?
[art16]-- I think the idea needs to be circulated before the petition is
circulated. You know the old horse carriage thing.
[art14]-- ... To do it uselessly and
futilely wrong... a spool of thread, a crackerjack box and a November
1974 issue of Penthouse magazine. .....I suppose the most economical
approach would probably be to just released the servers currently
hosting the whois database to the "whatis authority" and provide
enough resources to engineer some new software and staff to solicit,
index, and validate the whatis meta-data.
[net15]-- Once again, I wouldn't hold your breath, but maybe if you hold a can of Coca
Cola in your hand, sing Kumbaya, and reminisce about the '60s, you will have
better luck with your congressional representatives than you have had in any
online discussion forum.
[art16]-- So it's also your opinion that my lack of success (ie the
censorship of my opinion) on message boards is a failure of mine, for
which I deserve ridicule? Maybe if everybody had just been polite and
done what the Nazis wanted we wouldn't have had to have that silly
war. The "congressional representatives" thing is your dopey idea and
it's kind of cheap rhetoric to imply that I'm "hoping" that'll work.
[net17]-- I don't think that anyone *deserves* ridicule, but it should be self-evident to
any objective observer that you are the author of your own exile from the
various online communities that have purportedly censored you.
[art18]-- With defenders (censorship sympathizers) like you, free-speech
doesn't need enemies either.
[net9]-- ...Indeed, by virtue of the fact that you are
willing to engage in such extensive discussion with me regarding totally
irrelevant issues leads me to believe that you don't really think that the
Internet is in urgent need of an overhaul.
[art10]-- So you reference me by my actual name (An id I don't use on
message boards) and post a pretty damning critique of my character and
I'm guilty of some kind of insincerity because I simply decide to
defend myself? that's a charming little Catch-22.
[art8]-- ...Given 1/100th of the
media exposure the google-jerks have received I believe I can persuade
the vast majority of the Internet public that the system is valuable
enough to spend a little effort securing its sloppily/hastily built
foundation. To the controlling geekdom elite exploiting the logically
appropriate ignorance of most end-users, I may seem to be worthy of
description as a dangerous zealot... but that's just their
self-interest and "corrupt nature" talking.
[art6]-- ...During many
critical moments in history, the action of one man radically changed
the course of human destiny.
[net7]-- And the actions of another man (or woman) subsequently put things right back on
course. My point was (and is) that for every action there is an equal and
opposite reaction, that what is now, was before, and will be again. To wit, but
for some superficial changes involving the names of the players and the costumes
that they are wearing, history repeats itself because human nature remains human
nature.
[art8]-- This mush might mean something if intelligence was static...
but it's not you imbecile. What was the opposite reaction to the
emancipation of the slave? What was the opposite reaction to the
emancipation of women? What was the opposite reaction to the defeat of
Adolf Hitler? What was the opposite reaction to landing on the moon?
What was the opposite reaction to the public financing of libraries?
[net9]-- Not to put too fine a point on it, but I am not aware of any occasion relevant
to this discussion when women were in need of emancipation. Perhaps you are
referring to the extension of women's suffrage at the federal level to all women
who were citizens of the United States and its territories.
[art10]-- More word games-- or is it your theory that women weren't
virtual slaves for the raping and pillaging for the substance of all
human history. I'm referring to the right of women to say no, the
right of women to own property, the right of women to control their
reproductive organs, the right of women to be all they can be and to
be paid equally for it and yes the right of women to vote and share
equally in the rights and responsibilities of full complete citizenship.
[net9]-- ...In any event, the
abolition of slavery and the extension of suffrage to women were noteworthy,
progressive, and long overdue political reforms. Similarly, I have no
complaints about the defeat of Adolf Hitler. However, notwithstanding historic
reforms of democracy in the United States and the defeat of the Axis Powers in
World War II, the machinery of political oppression remains firmly in place all
over the world through to the present day.
[art10]-- but The fact that there are still practical facsimiles of
prehistoric civilizations on earth, does not negate the reality of
progress in the rest of the world.
[art6]-- ...History is littered with thousands of
examples where people and their principles made a difference in
defeating oppressions imposed by both nature and mankind.
[net7]-- Nothing could be further from the truth. To wit, what passes for progress is
often the exact opposite, and beyond occasional blips of punctutated
equilibrium, there is little change and no real progress. Rather, history and
events are circular in nature, even as technology continues to evolve, creating
just as many problems as it solves.
[art8]-- 500 years from now the ecstasy brains living in beakers are
gonna laugh their neurons loose reading this crap. To save on
fund-raising expenses you should merge your "Circular Progress
Society" with the "Flat Earth Society" and maybe rename yourselves the
"Perfect Idiots Society"
[art6]-- ...We have
defeated most infectious disease and live substantially more healthy,
comfortable and longer lives.
[net7]-- That depends upon what time frame you use. Sure, if you compare the 21st
Century to, say, the Middle Ages, I would say that in that very limited context
people are living longer and healthier lives, if you are willing to overlook the
billions of people who live in Third World Countries where hunger and disease
still decimate populations in biblical proportions. Have you been to Africa
lately, where 815 million people suffer from chronic hunger on a daily basis and
over 26 million people have died of AIDS, one every thirteen seconds? And this
after suffering the tortures of the damned.
[art8]-- I make a point regarding how knowledge and intelligence has
improved and civilized our lives... and you bend comparison into
complete distortion by referencing a lost continent substantially
living in the Stone Age. Africa (generally speaking) is not evidence
of the imperfection or liability of edification and progress it just
proves that sometimes ignorance is not bliss, but in fact pretty
catastrophically dangerous. Progressive Rational thinking does not
compel people to have children they can't feed or educate-- that kind
of imbecility has been imposed by the dogma of the religious nuts and
the greedy regressive capitalists who see purpose in keeping the
world supply of desperation high.
[net7]-- ...And let's not forget the hundreds of thousands of people who are routinely
killed off every decade or so in the latest act of genocide. Rwanda is the one
that sticks out most in my mind from recent memory, where close to one million
civilians were killed off in a period of less than six months, far exceeding the
rate of killing effected by the Nazi Regime during the Holocaust of World War
II, but there are more recent examples of ethnic cleansing in Europe that are
just as outrageous.
[art8]-- None of this is a liability of progress and it is in fact the
result achieved when human beings refuse to have their "nature"
moderated by intelligence.
[art6]-- ...We evolved from a culture that could see
justification for slavery to one that generally finds it abhorrent and
we made that transition because people were willing to say, and do,
more than merely promise not to personally own any humans.
[net7]-- Actually, prior to the agricultural revolution some five to ten thousand years
ago, there was no such thing as slavery, ...
[art8]-- Why? because they hadn't invented chains yet. You are required
to possess some restraining technology to manage a population of
slaves. An obvious point you neglected to consider was that these
"civilizations" murdered quite routinely and they did certainly
possess enough technology to manage women into bought and sold abusive
slavery.
[net7]-- ...and people generally lived longer and
healthier lives than they do now in even the most technologically advanced
cultures on the planet.
[art8]-- And what skeletal record "proves" this fallacy... The Bible
does reference a lot of 800 year-olds who only managed to have a
half-dozen children but that's not really an unimpeachable record.
Maybe we should solicit the opinion of a representative sample of
professional anthropologist's and put your "generally lived longer and
healthier" unprofessional quackery to the test.
net9]-- Been there; done that. Take a look at my resume, which includes a degree in
anthropology, awarded with honors. You will find accord with all of my mentors
and professors in archaeology and cultural anthropology. To wit, prior to the
advent of agriculture, humanity lived as hunters and gatherers and generally
lived longer and healthier lives.
[art10]-- Well your degree should be written on toilet paper as it is
apparent that's all that it's worth as proof of knowledge acquired. If
you're willing to match a $10,000 wager lets find ourselves and
agreeable authority and let's put your pompous ludicrous overstatement
to the test. I have about 600 National Geographics in my living room
maybe you can find a wikopedia cross reference to a volume and page
number of some published anthropological idiot who provides some
actual evidence that any pre 20th century human or near human hominid
had an average life span of 75 frigging years.
[art4]-- ...Monica Lewinsky basically changed the world with a tool as prehistoric as a blow job.
[net5]-- I wholeheartedly disagree. Notwithstanding the personal trials of one
ex-president, the world is still rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun.
Moreover, . . .
"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is
nothing new under the sun."
(Ecclesiastes 1:9.)
"The farmer imagines power and place are fine things. But the President has paid
dear for his White House. It has commonly cost him all his peace, and the best
of his manly attributes. To preserve for a short time so conspicuous an
appearance before the world, he is content to eat dust before the real masters
who stand erect behind the throne."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson, _Compensation_.)
[art4]-- ...The forces of nature do require a collective effort to screw with, but the forces of society are infinitely screwable you just have to find the right screwdriver.
[net5]-- "Drive out nature with a fork, she comes running back."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson, _Compensation_.)
As evidenced by the tragic loss of human life occasioned by last year's tsunami,
I think it's safe to say that we as a species have very little control over
things like geology and the weather. Society is not that different, as any
positive impact that one person or group of people has on the world is quickly
counteracted by prompting members of the opposition into action.
[net3]-- For me, the important thing is that I never become part of the problem. Some people
never learn this lesson,
[art4]-- Yeah, SOME people are real stupid. Just for clarification what "some
people" do you currently considered to be "part of the problem"?
[net5]-- I think that the problems of the world began with its creator, that all of our
attempts to fix it are doomed to failure, and that the spectrum of
blameworthiness includes not only those who actively seek to profit from the
flaws inherent in the system, but also those who believe that the system is not
that bad as well as those who routinely break their arms patting themselves on
the back for their wholly ineffective attempts to effect meaningful change.
From time to time, I still find myself falling into the two latter categories,
but not for very long.
[net3]-- ...and they work ceaselessly to effect change from within
the system or by attacking the system from the outside, periodically bringing
shocking and sensational issues into the spotlight, only to watch the initial
schock fade and the issues become marginalized and ignored in the weeks, months,
and years that it takes to effect real change. For me, the solution is to be
very particular about who my clients are, working only with the most ethical and
conscientious people.
[art4]-- In fairness I don't think this is a strictly accurate definition of
the "solution".
[net5]-- And there was a time when I would have shared this sentiment. But there came a
point in time when I realized that I was deluding myself by thinking that there
was such a thing as a comprehensive or lasting solution to any problem. Simply
put, I've scaled back, and I now focus on making sure that whatever actions I do
take do not make things any worse than they already are.
[art4]-- ...It's kind of like saying I'm solving poverty by
personally not being poor....
[net5]-- That's actually a very fair appraisal of my position. To wit, I do not believe
that there is a wholesale solution to the problem of poverty, and I know for a
fact that the best way for me to be able to help the poor is by making sure that
I am not one of them. Equally important, I think, is not holding out the false
hope that government will ever do anything to help the poor.
[art4]-- ... or I guess it's like saying I support
the public funding of public libraries, by not actively opposing it.
[net5]-- That's not an accurate statement. In my perfect world, there would be no need
for public funding of libraries because libraries would be supported by patrons
and sponsors who understood the benefits of having a literate and informed
public. Contrary to popular belief, most people give very generously to worthy
causes, and I believe that they would give more if money for corporate welfare
and warfare was not taken directly out of their paychecks. Of course, I don't
see politicians voluntary giving up total control over their revenue stream any
time soon, so I have proposed the institution of a budget ballot as an interim
reform measure.
[art4]-- ...Even the premise that you are not part of the problem is debatable.
For example, I would state that war is not a viable survivable
alternative in the 21st century and beyond. Even if we "win" a war,
and create a vastly improved result as a result of warring ...the
damning truth would be that we used an illegitimate means to achieve
the end and in doing so justified others in their attempt to use the
same means. By playing the game, you endorse the game. The fact that
you may not be cheating like most others, doesn't do much to mitigate
against the fact that you have endorsed "the biggest cheat" which is
the game itself.
[net5]-- I echo this sentiment, but I take it a step further. To wit, those who actively
oppose the system typically accomplish nothing more than prickling the defenders
of the _status quo_ into action. Thus, paradoxically, the most vocal advocates
for change are also part of the problem. I speak from personal and professional
experience here.
[art6]-- Beyond the stunning stupidity of your "everything is futile and
therefore nothing is worth fighting for" philosophy the accusation
that some substantial portion of the "advocates for change" [John
Brown's] are part of the problem is just plain disgusting. Certainly
there are many cases where the overly aggressive fringe does more harm
than good-- but I believe there are infinitely more cases were
aggressive action by the right person at the right time made critical
change possible.
[net7]-- Then you are deluding yourself. Without exception, every good and noble ideal
that has ever been conceived has been corrupted by human destructiveness in ways
that would make the people who originally championed those ideals roll over in
their graves.
[art8]-- I bet John Brown is resting in relative if not perfect peace.
And the ladies who earned women their emancipation are probably
feeling pretty damn proud of the New World Order they helped make
possible. Outside of the disgusting current aberration of popular
culture's idealization of the preposterously unproductive idle stupid
and unimaginative rich the last hundred years represent accomplishment
that is nothing to roll over at.
[net7]-- ...I've had a small taste of this, both personally and
professionally, and I now realize that the system may change, but it never
really improves.
[art8]-- Simplistic overstretched generalizations like this-- kind of
illustrate the truth that "a little knowledge can be a dangerous
thing". My cynicism and disappointment with humanity's failures has me
quite horny for a loaded shotgun... but I remember the '60s and I
remember how close the progressives and the idealists came to saving
the world with a song and a bottle of Coke... There is no law of
nature obliging humanity to use their intelligence to scheme rather
than to dream and there's no fact of life that makes victory by the
assholes inevitable. What is for sure a fact is you can't spell
victory using the letters in surrender.
[art6]-- ...Once again our discussion regarding improvements to the navigation
infrastructure of the Internet has crashed into the brick wall of your
zealotly rigid libertarian principles. Apparently you really believe
we should go back to the dark ages where "patrons" rather than fair
minded rational infrastructure and design, decided who lives and who
dies, and who laughs and who cries. If history proves anything it
proves people aren't by nature noble or "generous" and it is
preposterous folly to wait around for the "aristo's" to fairly and
equitably distribute some crumbs of opportunity cake.
[net7]-- Having researched the subject quite extensively, I can say with total certainty
that you are categorically wrong. Last year Americans donated more than $100
billion to charities, churches, foundations and other humanitarian causes. And
after the 1986 Tax Reform Act, when the top tax rate fell from 50 percent to 28
percent, charitable giving rose by $6.4 billion, or 7.6 percent. In other
words, given the opportunity, John and Jane Q. Public will be very charitable,
so there is no need to have government make them do the "right thing."
[art8]-- One minute you critique the abuseability of statistics, the
next minute you abuse some. Libertarian thy name is hypocrite. I think
your first obligation to fairness is to define what qualifies as
"charitable giving" -- it no doubt includes preposterously redundant
and shamelessly opulent church construction. Weeding out all the
charitable pork to "alumni" institutions and other soldiers of social
tyranny-- the truth is as I stated it-- cake crumbs for the masses
while the rich get proportionately richer and the poor-- as your
referenced-- die by the millions and live the half-life of the zombie.
The greedy rich are feathering the bed upon which will rest their
silly rolling heads.
[net7]-- ...In sum, what is wrong with the world is that most people don't know how to mind
their own business.
[art8]-- As Marley said "Mankind Was Our Business ..."
[net7]-- ...Instead, they point to what other people are doing wrong in
a vain effort to justify themselves and then all but break their arms patting
themselves on the back for not being as bad as other people.
[art8]-- There are two armies, one marching for fairness and justice,
the other marching to force conformity and submission. To paint all
fighters with the same slanderus brush might be a right of
free-speech, but it wrongs the truth.
[net7]-- ... In striking
contrast, I have found that the best solution to most social problems that I
encounter is not to be found by appealing to the masses, but by listening to
what other people have to say and speaking my own mind only after carefully
researching a topic,...
[art8}-- I think the tea leaf soup you've been doing your research in
has a little too much "eye of newt" and not enough brain of rational.
[net7]-- ...consequently revealing my worthiness to the small handful
of resolute individuals in the world who share my values. Indeed, this is how I
connect with most of my consulting clients.
[art8]-- I suddenly have a vision of a cockroach party where they are
all adorned with powdered wigs and have their six pinkies lifted....
how strangely inexplicable.
[art6]-- ..Intelligent
humans, acknowledge their corrupt nature and impose rules on
themselves that attempt to secure justice at the small price of some
marginal individual liberty. Insane libertarians delude themselves
with the preposterous theory that you build "a more level playing
field" by killing the referees and letting last week's winner
officiate the game.
[net1]-- Lost in the noise is the question of how the Internet should be indexed.
Sorry about that, folks.
[art2]-- I wish it was as simple as a "noise" problem. Clearly our inability to
step past conflicts of personality and philosophy to define the
problem and the solution in the same terms does create useless
noise.... but is the noise masking anything anyone is within earshot
of? There is little evidence anyone not an affiliated part of the
marketing industry is reading any of this. Even within the industry
"our" irrelevance seems quite complete.
[net3]-- I recently attended the Winter Search Engine Strategies Conference and Expo in
Chicago, which is properly the subject of another post. Much to my surprise, I
did not need to borrow Diogenes' lantern to find an honest man or woman at this
event. Sure, there were the usual salespeople who were trying to get to my
clients through me, the gatekeeper. But there were also a handful of industry
insiders who, like me, yearned for a level playing field where quality online
content could be easily indexed and retrieved. In time, I believe that more of
these Internet adepts will emerge and will refuse to sell their services to the
highest bidder. Then, and only then, will the world see a comprehensive
solution to the ongoing challenge of Internet indexing.
[art4]-- As I imply earlier, I think there's is a lot of permutations for
"Then, and only then". I'm certainly not going to hold my breath
waiting for the opportunists of the SEO industry to come to the
rescue.
[net5]-- Nor would I recommend that you do so. All I am saying is that there are many
industry insiders who share your disdain for the commercialization of the
Internet, and these people would gladly give of their time and talents if they
thought that they could help build a more level playing field where quality
content could be more easily indexed and retrieved. I am reminded of the
circumstances narrated in Ayn Rand's novel _Atlas Shrugged_, where John Galt
went around convincing members of the intelligentsia to go on strike rather than
let themselves continue to be exploited.
[art4]-- ...One of my daydream's on the subject, is that someday, the
ghosts of Internet past present and future will pay visitation upon
some silly technology billionaire and he will realize that there is
really no profit for humanity in allowing ignorance and want to be
shamelessly exploited on the Internet. Another kind of damp daydream
involves the "accidental" distribution on the Internet of a incredible
sex video between me and Christina Applegate that I use as a
steppingstone to achieving my rightful position as world dictator. In
another dream my head explodes out of sheer frustration coincidentally
spelling "google is evil" backwards in brain tissue on the wall, the
resulting news story gives Internet geekdom just enough pause to
realize that God probably doesn't look like a lying can of Spam... and
the Internet is saved.
[art2]-- With each passing year, as
marketing consumes the "science" of Internet navigation, my website
receives less and less relevant traffic. Sometime this year I
probably hit rock bottom and achieved perfect Internet invisibility. I
can't remember seeing a relevant search engine referral in the last
two months, which makes my number-one ranking on the phrase
"spectacular feeling" a perfect cherry-on-top paradox.
The problem isn't the noise of our communication problems, the problem
is, I'm right, and the Internet has just become another populist
controlled communication medium with a closed narrow agenda. Like in
the real-world, in cyberspace, the rich are getting richer and its not
what you know it's who you know. It's true that some outsiders
(out-crowd minorities) can break into the ivory towers, but they have
to be willing to compromise some principles, and get kind of marketing
deception dirty to do it.
The name and substance of the game is Marketing/Popularity and the
truth and content aren't king but just expendable pohns. I'm trying to
reconcile myself with the reality that I am riding a message horse as
near dead as Don Quixotes and that I have a personal manner that
completes the picture of futility --but even in the moments when I can
see my imbecility, just giving up and going home, still seems a
greater defeat than the prospect of spectacular failure.
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