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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By News Link on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 7:17 am:
Schools, Libraries vs Technology

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By iDoLikeUnions...But on Sunday, March 14, 2004

The towns of Mendham are proposed to spend a pretty sizable pile of money on a new library ( Borough and Township contribution $1.5 million + $250,000 a year.... Private donations 3.5 million + $200,000 a year). Recently a referendum to spend $35 million upgrading district high-schools was passed by the 25 percent of the voters who voted.

From the guesstimates I could find online the average public-school student costs between 10 and $15,000 a year to educate. That comes to somewhere over $100,000 per high-school graduate.

The question I pose: Is investment in the antiquated technology of these antiquated institutions the most efficient way to spend "education" dollars?

For decades now I have pondered the curiosity of "knowledge" being a commodity you must pay for. The picture of a highly paid professor (teacher) giving the same redundant lectur (instruction) to a handful students at a time over and over and over again for decades and even centuries just doesn't look right to me. The technology to record and permanently capture "the essence" of the instruction being provided has been readily available for a long time-- why aren't we doing the obvious and applying that technology to make "instruction" dirt cheap and universally available?

The basic facts that makeup the substance of language and math skills haven't change much with time. On these subjects an hour of classroom time 100 years ago would still be just as valuable and relevant as an hour in a "modern" classroom. Obviously the problem isn't that information changes too much for recorded instruction to be a viable alternative. Getting to the point, it is my conclusion that the real obstacle to progress in education is the rather silly notion of "information ownership". Like most free-trade hypocrite professionals educators don't want to except their obsolescence.... but the fact is paid by the hour pointlessly redundant "in person" information distribution is an archaic and grotesquely inefficient "system of education".

The minuscule investment that has been made in televised preschool education (Sesame Street and the like) proves the medium can be used to practically convey knowledge. Some might argue that televisions sporadic and brief experiments in "higher" education (foreign language instruction, some math and science) proved to be less effective. The simplistic conclusion being you can't make higher education entertaining enough to hold an audience. The problem with that conclusion, is the corporate television premise that an audience needs to be entertained to be held. News flash, most kids don't go to school because they would rather not do something else. The fact that people don't drive themselves to "educational programming" when they have other more fun choices shouldn't be an ignored reality. The only fair context to judge the effectiveness of "remote learning" is in the comparable environment of "forced" exposure.

Bending this subject relevant to Mendham, I believe the pending problem of high school overcrowding, and the associated traffic nightmare could be substantially resolved by applying available technology. Cable companies already offer and can easily provide channel bandwidth to local governments (obviously if you look at what is on your cable this resource isn't being used) I would suggest that we spend a few thousand dollars, verses millions, on some video equipment and placed it in a few relevant high-school classrooms, and pipe the instruction across the district. By allowing students who maintain adequate grades to spend some portion of the school day learning at a remote location ( i.e. Their, or a frends cable ready living room) Arrivals and departures at the high-school can be staggered eliminating the problem of peak traffic and overcrowding.

It all seems obvious and simple to me.... if you know why it isn't, please explain.

Regarding the investment in a new library:
Background information:
From the Observer-Tribune: New merged library is building steam

I've posted these brief "commentaries" on the town news Blog.
2/8/04
Facts regarding what exactly the plan is for the "joint library" remain scarce. The property will be donated, and as far as I can figure the building itself will be financed through donations, and money acquired through the sale of current library assets. The proposed annual subsidy the Borough will provide for operation of the library will be $125,000 [ the Township will also pay $125,000]. Personally, I in principal really like libraries, but the concept seems kind of archaic in the digital age. Libraries should be better integrated into the Internet, being more like information/learning centers than book storage facilities. From my narrow personal perspective, viewing the "face" promoted by the local library, it's looking more like Big Bird then Walter Cronkite.... and I kind of think schools are being paid enough to do the Sesame Street thing.


2/23/04
There was apparently a slide presentation regarding the merger of the town's libraries. The "plan" is to raise some $3.5 million in private contributions (1.5 million of which will be set up as an annuity to fund operations) The two towns will contribute 1.5 million, and an annual contribution base of $250,000 for operations (It is anticipated that yearly operation expenses will be between 450 to $500,000) The new library will be 12 to 15,000 square feet and be designed to accommodate future expansion.

There was a lot of talk about getting the "community" involved in this project. Apparently there are a few dozen super rich people who don't use the current libraries but have indicated a willingness to contribute $100,000 or so. [Maybe I have watched too many episodes of The Simpsons... but I think maybe a monorail would be a better idea. 5 million plus a half million in expenses every year seems like an awful lot to invest in pretty antiquated technology i.e. paper.... for this kind of dough we could probably broad band the whole town or establish our own cable company]

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Without knowing how many people actually use library services-- and what services they use it is probably inappropriate to draw any "conclusive" conclusions.... but I would speculate that a substantial portion of the services provided could be provided through more efficient means than the five million-dollar building.

For $50,000 a year, the town's could hire a book mobile to provide same-day delivery and pickup of requested books (library media) --taking advantage of substantial County Library Resources. I don't think the Mendham's really need their own private and shallow book depository. Other services[?] of value that the Library provides might be better incorporated into existing government and school facilities. In the modern world, it is 2004 you know, a local library is a nice symbol of culture and sophistication but is it really a practical necessity or an efficient investment?

have at me,

-Gary InMendham

By What The Hell, Its only $$$ on Sunday, March 14, 2004

It all seems obvious and simple to me.... if you know why it isn't, please explain.

Unfortunately Gary, you do make sense. The biggest obstacle of course would be the NJEA, deriding your idea, since I'm sure you remember the "warm fuzzy feeling" you got from in person interaction with all your teachers.

Where this idea screams for application is in the "home instruction" we are forced to provide to kids who would be better served in a correctional facility. Have to love it, screw up at school, they kick you out AND provide you with your very own instructor at home. Don't get me wrong, sick,disabled kids deserve it, but the disciplinary problems should be footing the bill. Providing online access would be a real money saver just in this scenario and a huge $$$ saver with a broader application.

Of course again, the problem being bandwidth and computers don't pay dues to a "union". so it could be seen as threatening.

Just think what this type of application would do to the "Abbott Districts". The State mandates poor districts get the same amount of money as the wealthy districts. Well, let's just pipe in the instruction from the wealthy districts and distribute the savings to the taxpayers. But alas, once again, we are forgetting the personal interaction,dirty looks and cut slips from a breathing being.

I think you mentioned it once before, provide every household with a computer and have a bookmobile for those needing the real thing. Could be done for a lot less.

Wouldn't it be nice to see the old library(ies) in both towns converted into some decent affordable housing instead??

Oh, and the traffic problem on 24? There is a solution, but the landowners on the north side of 24 would scream bloody murder. 24 needs to be widened, escpecially between Orchard and Hillcrest. That section has changed little since the 40's, but with the "Hysterical District" designation, probably never will change.

The WM Board of Ed should be buying up all the houses on (the school side) Main Street from the Entrance down to Dean Rd, but then again, why plan and buy when the owner is looking to sell, condemnation is much more fun and cost effective.
And a traffic light might not be the best solution, but probably better then the current "dim bulbs" being used. Funny how one with an attitude will back up traffic for miles, while the rest keep it flowing fairly well.


By A Link on Tuesday, April 06, 2004

"www.mendhamtownship.org
1. Presentation by the Library of the Mendhams (LotM)
Henry Roe, President of the LotM Board, assisted by Jeff Rich, gave a power point presentation outlining the activities to date of the LotM Board. He reviewed the various steps that have been taken, including community roundtables, visits to other recently built or expanded libraries, interviews with and hiring of a consultant and fundraising activities and projections. He also addressed funding both for building and ongoing operations of a joint library. He presented a timeline beginning with an interlocal agreement between the Borough and Township followed by land acquisition and a groundbreaking by September 2005 and completion by late 2006. He stressed the need for a capital campaign and said that coupled with a positive community support base and a solid municipal partnership would lead to meeting the objective of a Library of the Mendhams.
Mayor Pierson said he is happy to see the range of contributions projected from the Borough and Township at between $2.5 and $3.5 million. Mayor Pierson also noted that a smaller than originally projected facility may be necessary if fundraising doesn%u2019t meet expectations. Mr. Roe agreed, saying that they need to move forward with the project and do what needs to be done to get the facility built. He said that they are going to start soliciting some larger gifts and stressed the need to continue to educate the public regarding contributions."





2005


The proposed Library of Mendhams could be considered the library of the future.


quote:

The mail survey polled 1,000 residents, businesses and community organizations and received 125 responses, Battey said.

"Over 95 percent of those interviewed indicated that they were supportive of the plans to develop the new library and about 86 percent indicated a willingness to contribute financially," said Battey.

"In a response to a mail survey sent to over 1,000 Mendham households, over 125 surveys were returned with an excellent response. Interest in the new library was strong, with 90 percent indicating support for the library and over 70 percent indicating a willingness to contribute financially," Battey said.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By GiftHorse IsLongOfTooth on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 6:36 pm:
I got this copy of the library property donation agreement from the town. In previous council meetings the mayor has stated that there is no prid-pro-quo circumstance regarding the property donation. As I read the agreement it seems pretty clear that the development property (de Neufvilles) gets a lot in return for their 5 acre "gift". One perk is the elimination of any lost value due to the duration by increasing the number of "units" that can be developed on the remaining property. Another perk is the construction of an access road by the library that will also serve the development property. When you also consider that the library/town will end up doing some portion of the bureaucracy wrangling regarding DEP regulations it seems to me the de Neufvilles are getting more than they're giving-- I certainly hope for tax purposes this "gift" isn't being considered a deductible charitable contribution.


quote:

WHEREAS, the de Neufvilles intend to convey and donate as a gift a certain parcel of
land hereinafter described to the Municipalities so that the Municipalities can then ground lease
that land to the Library of the Mendhams, a New Jersey nonprofit corporation ("LOTM"), for the
construction and maintenance of a library facility thereon for use by the citizens of both
Municipalities; and


WHEREAS, to enable and support LOTM's efforts to raise funds and proceed with its
plans to construct the library, the de Neufvilles are willing to enter into this Agreement to
demonstrate their commitment to convey and donate the Property after the conditions set forth
in this Agreement have been satisfied;


NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants and agreements set forth
herein and in accordance with resolutions adopted by the Borough and the Township on
________ and __________, respectively, the parties hereto for themselves, their heirs, legal
representatives, successors and assigns, hereby agree as follows:

1.
Gift
of
Land. The de Neufvilles agree to convey and donate to the
Municipalities, as a gift without consideration, by bargain and sale deed with covenants against
grantors' acts, that certain parcel of land being a portion of Block 1801, Lot 16, as shown on the
Tax Map of the Borough of Mendham, and more particularly described and depicted on
Schedules A-1 and A-2 attached hereto (the "Property"), together with an appurtenant
perpetual and non-exclusive drainage easement as described and depicted on Schedules B-1
and B-2 attached hereto for the purpose of allowing a stormwater drainage pipe and outfall and
the overland flow of stormwater runoff from the Property to the nearby stream or pond on the de
Neufvilles' retained portion of said Lot 16, provided, however, that such conveyance and
donation shall not take place until the conditions precedent set forth in this Agreement have
been satisfied. That portion of the Property depicted on Schedule A-2 as a right-of-
way/roadway connecting into the adjacent public roadway on Block 1801, Lot 16.02 shall be
improved (in accordance with Borough standards for a public roadway) and dedicated as a
public road providing access to the new library and to the portion of Block 1801, Lot 16 ("Lot
16") retained by the de Neufvilles.

2.
Acceptance
of
Gift. Each of the Municipalities agrees to adopt an
ordinance accepting the de Neufvilles' deed of gift of the Property as tenants-in-common, each
having a fifty percent (50%) undivided interest in the Property, and then enter a ground lease
with LOTM so that a library may be built on the Property. The Property is being donated, and
accepted by the Municipalities, in AS-IS condition without representation or warranty of any
nature by the de Neufvilles' as to the condition or quality of the Property or the suitability of the
Property for use as a library or for any other purpose. The Municipalities have retained
professional consultants to inspect the Property on their behalf, perform environmental due
diligence and investigations as to the condition and suitability of the land for the Municipalities'
intended purpose.



3.
Conditions Precedent to the de Neufvilles' Conveyance. Before the de
Neufvilles shall be obligated hereunder to execute and deliver a deed conveying and donating
the Property to the Municipalities, the following conditions shall have been satisfied:



a.
Subdivision. Minor subdivision approval creating the Property as
a separately conveyable lot shall have been obtained by the Borough, and the
time for appeal of the subdivision approval shall have expired without any appeal
having been taken. Said minor subdivision shall be perfected by the execution
and recording of the deed to the Property in accordance with N.J.S.A. 40:55D-47.



b.
Library
Construction
Funding. The Municipalities shall be
satisfied, and represent to the de Neufvilles, that LOTM shall have received cash
or pledges sufficient to pay seventy-five percent (75%) of the architect's
estimated construction costs for the shell of a finished, but unfurnished, library
building for which a certificate of occupancy could be issued. The Municipalities
shall advise the de Neufvilles in writing when this level of funding has been
achieved.

c.
Credit Towards Future Cluster Development. The Borough shall
have adopted a ordinance (and the appeal period for same shall have expired
without an appeal having been taken) amending §215-14.G.(1) of the Mendham
Borough Zoning Ordinance to create a subsection (d) thereof allowing a density
bonus of one additional unit for each five acres of land dedicated to the
Municipalities for public use purposes in connection with an application for
subdivision and/or site plan approval of the future development of the retained
portion of Lot 16 and allowing such bonus even if such dedication precedes said
development application ; provided that such application is filed within a ten-year
period after the dedication of the Property to the Municipalities in accordance
herewith.



d.
N.J.D.E.P.
Permits. The final, non-appealable permits needed
from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection to build the library
and the access road to the library (including, but not limited to, wetlands general
permits, transition area waivers, stream encroachment permits and special
resource protection area waivers) shall have been received, and no permit shall
contain a condition precluding the further extension or utilization of the access
road to serve the remainder of Lot 16 and adjacent parcels for development of
that land consistent with the currently existing Borough zoning ordinance.



e.
Access
Road. The parties shall have agreed upon the location,
alignment and standards for the public access road to the library and shall be
satisfied that such public access road will provide access to the remainder of Lot
16 for development of that land consistent with the existing Borough zoning
ordinance.



f.
Ground
Lease. The Municipalities and LOTM shall have agreed
upon the terms and conditions of the ground lease of the Property for the library
facility and shall have adopted appropriate ordinances approving the execution of
the same contingent upon the occurrence of the land donation contemplated
herein.

If the forgoing conditions precedent have not been satisfied by July 1, 2007, or such later date
as is specified in writing by the parties hereto, then this Agreement shall terminate and the de
Neufvilles shall have no further obligation hereunder.

4.
Good
Title;
Closing. Title to the Property to be conveyed by the de
Neufvilles shall be a good and marketable fee simple title, insurable at regular rates by a title
insurance company selected by the Municipalities and shall be conveyed free and clear of all
liens, encumbrances, tenancies and rights of any nature except for the deed restriction
referenced in paragraph 5 below and such other encumbrances as are acceptable to by the
Municipalities. The closing of title to the Property in accordance herewith shall occur at the
offices of Pitney Hardin, LLP, 200 Campus Drive, Florham Park, New Jersey, or such other
location as the parties may designate, on or before the first business day which is thirty (30)
days after satisfaction of all of the conditions precedent to the conveyance of the Property set
forth in paragraph 3 above. If the de Neufvilles' are unable to convey title to the Property in
accordance with the foregoing, the Municipalities' sole right and remedy shall be to decline the
donation and terminate this Agreement.



5.
Deed Restriction If Property Is Not Used as a Library. The deed for the
Property shall contain, and the Municipalities' title shall be subject to, a deed restriction running
with the land which will require that the Property be used exclusively for a public library but, in
the event that LOTM, as the ground lessee, and the Municipalities, as ground lessors,
reasonably determine that the operation of a joint public library in the Borough is no longer
feasible, the Property shall be used for a similar public purpose which advances the cultural,
historic preservation or environmental preservation interests of the public. Under no
circumstances shall the Property be used for a Department of Public Works facility, police
station or emergency service facility, or storage facility of any kind; and no parking of
maintenance or construction vehicles or police, fire or emergency service vehicles shall be
permitted thereon, except temporarily in the event of an emergency. The right to enforce the
deed restriction may be assigned by the de Neufvilles to the New Jersey Conservation
Foundation or a similar non-profit cultural, historical or environmental preservation organization.

6.
Pond
Modification. The parties hereto acknowledge and agree that the
pond located near the Property and into which stormwater runoff from the Property will flow
pursuant to the drainage easement described and depicted in Schedules B-1 and B-2 may be
modified or eliminated by the de Neufvilles or their successors-in-title to Lot 16 in the process of
complying with dam safety and other environmental regulations and nothing contained herein or
in the drainage easement referenced hereinabove shall obligate the de Neufvilles to retain the
pond or limit their rights to modify or eliminate the same in compliance with applicable laws and
regulations. If such pond modification work is undertaken by said owner of Lot 16, such work
shall be performed so as to avoid any material adverse impact to the drainage facilities and
other improvements installed by LOTM to serve the library facility constructed on the Property.
The Municipalities agree to interpose no objection to any such pond modification work which
causes no material adverse impact to the library improvements and to execute such consents to
such pond modification work as may be requested by said owner of Lot 16 in connection with
the permitting of such work. The Municipalities shall likewise require LOTM to consent to such
pond modification work through an appropriate covenant in the ground lease.

7.
Assignment. This Agreement may not be assigned by the Municipalities
without the prior written consent of the de Neufvilles, which consent may withheld for any
reason and in their sole discretion.

8.
Amendments: This Agreement may not be modified or amended except
by a written agreement executed by the parties.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By nodeal on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:51 am:
good grief...who has time to read all this b.s.

there will be no library because the 'rich donors' the library group is counting on don't really have the cash...just big mortgages.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . . on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 11:21 am:
At the December 5th meeting of the town council these questions were presented during the public comment portion of the meaning.


quote:

Regarding the merged library:

As your response to my previous inquiry would suggest, you are apparently not very willing to engage in reasonable discussion regarding the merits of this proposed, and secret committee developed/orchestrated $6 million public/private financed library merger. Obviously you are satisfactorily convinced that it is the public's will, and it is in the public interest, that this new library be built. I would inquire to know what facts-- perhaps actual citation to a credible statistic-- inspire such confidence.

As a follow-up question, it seems quite obvious that the development company is receiving "benefits" in return for their land donation that actually exceed the real value of the land being "donated". In practical effect, the construction of this library will in fact facilitate the development of the connected property by making development less-expensive and substantially improve the property by connecting it to a neighborhood enhancing piece of social infrastructure. In my opinion using the words "gift" or "donation" implies something that is not taking place here. I would inquire if the council feels any similar discomfort with this "appearance problem".


The council's response was a vacant blanket endorsement ....and a preposterous rejection of absolute fact.

Obviously, by "real people" standards a "gift" is not something you get well-paid for "giving". To call the land exchange, a "donation" is quite simply a lie-- In practical fact the development company is getting back more than they're giving away and none of these "government officials" have the 1 oz of integrity required to simply admit that fact.

The other lie they won't fess up to is the nonsense that this new library proposal has any significant measure of public support ...or even knowledge. When you send out a survey and only 10 percent of people respond it's not logical to assume the 10 percent represents public opinion-- the logical assumption is that 90 percent are saying "who cares" or "no thanks". When you also consider that the 10% supporting the library are probably only supporting the propaganda they've been fed-- It doesn't take much integrity to realize that it is wrong to imply a public consensus or mandate.

A third lie is the council's protest regarding the use of the term "secret committee". A committee that operates without providing public access to any information relevant to the decisions it makes, pretty explicitly meets the definition of secret. In the years the merged library committee has existed the only relevant public document I have been able to secure is the inner local agreement between the towns establishing the mission of creating this merged library. They have basically chosen a location, an architect, and accepted a design without realistically permitting any public input or feedback.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By . . . . on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:24 pm:
It is frustrating to see the town council back
a plan that is obviously will just add problems. They are backing a development that is going to add 140 units (houses), it is going under the euphamism of "village cluster". This proposed development is being proposed on the Hidden Pond Tree Farm directly behind Linden Lane. Think of the traffic, the neccessity of traffic lights, the environmental impact and probably commercial zoning despite the nay saying of the mayor. The waterways are C1's which are protected, and runs through Schiff Natural Land Trust ( where are they?)(why are they quiet?)This is pristine land..
Now the mayor does not want to comply with current
sewer and septic regualtions. We the public needs to speak out yet since we have no regular press coverage on town council meetings thus the flow of information is extremely limited

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:35 pm:
To be fair... the retirement village 100 unit thing was more or less just a "trial balloon". It's something the developers would like to do... but they know they won't be able to without public support and the variances that would permit. Even if they are able to combine the connected Thomas property into one development they probably can't exceed 50 units.... but that's still a pretty large development directly accessing Route 24 in a less than ideal location.
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On the subject of libraries, did you get your "evening of fun, food, and family" invitation from the "Friends of" the Borough library.

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"Black Space", "White Space"... and barely enough text to cover a matchbook... printed on glossy cardboard just doesn't have a very "efficient library" kind of feel to it. They say 100 percent of the proceeds go towards library operating expenses-- I wonder what that comes to after expenses.

In my opinion if the library wasn't so distracted wiping snotty noses it might be able to do something "innovative" like maybe create a "community e-mail database" that would enable organizations like the library to save some money by e-mailing their junk-mail.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 1:40 pm:
In the all too typical "state a few facts, but imply the lie" tradition of the marketing industry media, this daily record "story" is little more than slanted and bent rhetoric. Even the title and subtitle contradict each other.

quote:


Mendham couple to give land for library

As part of deal, borough will give landowners credits to develop site in future


As a practical matter a "gift" really can't be part of a "deal"... and certainly a gift that guarantees a greater return than the value given isn't by common rational definition a gift. The Daily record provides abundant quotes using the word philanthropy-- yet they leave this terminology unchallenged even though they're fully aware that the "deal" essentially insures that the developers get more back than they give. The news story was just rich man propaganda... a big lie intended to fool any unwashed-in-corruption modest means readers into believing that the rich are generous, and have a social conscience.

In the context, of my challenge to the town council to put little integrity behind the use of the word "donation" this statement by the mayor is such a slap in the truths' face.

quote:

"They are very philanthropic,"Kraft said. "Their donation for this library comes from a philanthropic bent."


The truth is, they are donating land... not a library... and that land has an appraised value of something like $5,000. The right to develop the land, that has been moved to the adjacent property, is the real value of the land, and without it you probably couldn't sell the 5 acres for the $5,000 it's appraised at. A funny little irony here, is the fact that the whole 90 a. "tree farm" is only assessed a couple of thousand dollars in property taxes which is probably less than my share of my landlord's tax bill... Yet, as the town council attempts to disqualify my citizenship for being too poor, they're probably going to give these false philanthropists the key to the city....For inheriting the privilege of making deals with local governments to make your inheritance even more valuable.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 41... . . on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 11:12 am:
Good letter to the editor today in the Observer. I've never heard of "Mendham Matters", who are they?

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15837095 &BRD=1918&PAG=461&dept_id=506870&rfi=6

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 2:22 pm:
Thanks for posting the link, I read that this morning but hadn't had time to post a response. I think "Mendham Matters" is just a loose affiliation of some "Not In My Backyarders" who live adjacent to the "to potentially be developed property". I have requested the draft minutes from the last meeting from the town (no audio recording was made) as I'm curious to know how they responded to "my suggestion" that they put the new library up to referendum vote.... Unfortunately neither the Township, or the Borough, is being very cooperative when it comes to document requests.

Regarding the editorial, although I share the general opinion... I think some of the specific accusations made, kind of abuse the truth... what the developers have considered or proposed really isn't very relevant.... Realistically, there are too many people watching for the town council to approve any commercial or special zoning so I don't think it is really fair to confuse, or scare people, with kind of false rhetoric regarding a threat of high density development. The expansion of the libraries should be opposed because it's a lot of money to be investing in antiquated technology, and because the property donation costs too much (ie. the town will be basically subsidizing and facilitating the development of the adjacent property)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 12:45 pm:
This Observer Tribune story ( Mendhams take next step to new library ) is so one-sided it seems reasonable to speculate that it is payback to the local government for the hundreds of dollars a month spent on legal notices. No mention of the "unit credit" which is the biggest donation windfall/bargaining chip... The mayor also ignores that hundreds of thousands of dollars in payment/exchanged value in his annual State of the Unionized local Government address. (I appropriately ripped him a new one on the blog)

This editorial ( Ex-director concerned with library plans ) attacks the need for, and overall feasibility, of the project. Too bad Observer Tribune reporters don't read the editorials printed in their own paper.

Here are some interesting Councilman Henry quotes:

quote:

“The $1.5 million will not go toward actual construction of the building, just the area surrounding it,” Henry said. “If there is money left over from the fund, it will go towards furniture, shelving and office equipment.”

Henry said the $1.5 million for the borough will come from the sale of the present library building, short term bonds, and engineering and in-kind services that the borough can provide from its own staff.


So they're (the Township and Borough) going to spend $3 million on the area "just surrounding" the building? How much you wanna bet the "engineering and in-kind services" will not be performed out of salaried compensation and will be taxpayer funded at overtime rates?

The obvious appearance is, there must be some graft connected with this project-- the secrecy and the bent-truths lead to no other logical conclusion.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 6:57 am:
Now that both towns have approved the land exchange agreement, I suspect the next event will be rehiring a marketing firm to solicit donations. Maybe when that happens, I will again challenge the council to explain the practical wisdom of this substantial investment of resources... at the added price of facilitating new/more development in Mendham.

These posts on another subject board defines pretty specifically how much this "donation" will cost ...and reveals that the town council has no intention of accounting for anything.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 32... . . on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:26 am:
THERES A COUNTY LIBRARY,A LIBRARY IN MENDHAM A LIBRARY IN BROOKSIDE,HOW MANY DO WE NEED? A TON OF OUR COUNTY TAXES GETS DUMPED INTO THE COUNTY LIBRARY EVERY YEAR, LETS GET IN OUR CARS AND USE THE DAMN THING, QUIT WASTING MONEY ON DUPLICATING SERVICES, DAMN

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 56... . . on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 11:45 am:
Does the owner of the Tree farm sell the trees? How can I contact the owner?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 7:10 pm:
Attend meeting on new library
03/23/2006 Observer Tribune

EDITOR:

In the Jan. 5 issue of this paper, my letter to the editor outlined what I believe are serious issues concerning a joint library for the Mendhams.

I urged that the financial arrangements for the proposed joint library be discussed in public.

The Mendham Township Committee announced at its March 13 meeting that the board of the Library of the Mendhams will give a presentation to the committee at its regular meeting on March 28. The presentation will include financial details of the project.

The joint library proposal seems to be heading toward a multimillion dollar project, to fund both the building and a large endowment to cover future operating costs. The joint library board should provide evidence that a private joint library of the scope it foresees will be a financially sustainable venture and that sufficient funds can be raised to support it.

The potential amount of money to be raised goes well beyond the $3 million that the governing bodies of the Mendhams have pledged.

I urge everyone in the Mendhams to attend the March 28 meeting if you care about the future of our libraries and the cost and viability of the joint library project.

The Township Committee meeting will be held at 7:30 p.m. in the Municipal Building in Brookside on March 28.

Sarah Dean Link

Tingley Road

Mendham Township

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 2....... . on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 1:45 pm:
from OT:
Group wants library in Mendham
By PHIL GARBER Managing Editor
06/11/2006

MENDHAM – A citizens group wants the borough and township to scrap plans to build a combined library in the borough and instead focus efforts in the center of the borough.


"To keep the community vibrant and alive, you must keep the library in the center of town," said Laurie Felber of Townsend Road in the borough, and spokeswoman for the civic group, "Mendham Matters."

"We’re lucky we have a center of town and we have to protect it," said Felber on Monday.

The group will host a public forum on its concerns at 7 p.m., Wednesday, June 21, at the First Presbyterian Church, 20 Hilltop Road.

The board of trustees of the joint Library of the Mendhams plans to develop a new $6.8 million library on land behind Linden Lane in the borough. Access would be from a new road off the existing service road next to West Field. The land has a pond and wetlands and building plans are under review by the state Department of Environmental Protection.

The library merger was first conceived six years ago. Borough and township officials approved a plan to accept a donation of the tract from the de Neufville family.

Richard Blood, a trustee with the joint library board, said board officials have searched for other properties in the borough but have found none that are affordable or large enough.

"The joint library board wanted to keep the library in the center of town," Blood said. "Try to find five acres in Mendham. There isn’t any."

Among the properties reviewed was the current Bailey Funeral Home next to the borough library. The former owner did not care to sell, Blood said.

Board members also considered buying the current Audi dealer on Main Street but decided it would be too great a ratable for the borough to lose.

Blood also said it would not be feasible to try to buy property that has been purchased with state Green Acres funds because the state would require triple the size and value in return.

Blood said the proposed combined library site is near to the geographical center of the borough and township although he said it is a mile from the shopping center which is the practical, central meeting place for the borough and township.

Extensive Experience

The June 21 program will be led by community planner Anton Nelessen, a principle with A. Nelessen Associates of Belle Meade.

Nelessen has more than 38 years of professional experience as a professor, author and practitioner on the fields of planning and urban design. He has been a professor at Harvard and Rutgers universities since 1974.

His experience includes downtown redevelopment plans for Milwaukee, Wis., Cambridge, Mass. and midtown Atlanta, new town plans for Belgium and South Africa, and a national plan for the Netherlands.

Nelessen's group has won three Smart Growth awards from the N.J. Institute of Architecture and three Excellence in Planning awards from the N.J. Federation of Planning Officials.

Felbert said she asked Nelessen to speak after hearing his comments at the Earth Day program at Raritan Valley Community College in Bridgewater.

"He spoke about keeping a center of town viable in order to maintain a community center," Felber said. "He helps communities function together. He brings out the better in people."

Felber said developing the joint library away from the center of town would add traffic to Route 24 and that it would be better to have the new library within walking distance of many residents.

Felber said officials should consider if the owner of the Mendham Village Shopping Center on Main Street would consider adding a second floor on to the shopping center for a new library. Another option would be to develop a smaller satellite library outside of the borough, she said.

She also said she is concerned the proposed new access road to the joint library would cross wetlands and waterways that serve the Upper Raritan River watershed and are classified as trout bearing streams.

Felber has lived in town since 1993 and said her home is near Linden Lane but that the proposed library would not be visible from her property.

The Mendham Matters group includes a core of about five people along with about 20 other interested residents. Felber said the group also has been consulting with the Sierra Club for ideas on a new library.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 06. 2....... on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 7:49 am:
Two new bits of information, that that seem to suggest some impurity in the motives behind this new library. Apparently, John deNeufville the landowner "donating" (in exchange for hundreds of thousands of dollars in site improvements) a piece of property for this project is also head of the fund-raising committee. I suppose if the land "donation" was unquestionably a sacrifice of real value there wouldn't be an appearance of a conflict of interest... but when consider the suspect "donation" and add the fact that John deNeufville is by title a "land owner and developer" the appearance problem becomes pretty opaque. I personally have little doubt that when the first cornerstone cinderblock is in place for this new library-- development plans for the rest of the property will be in process. A piece of property with a public library as its access point to a major thoroughfare is a developer's dream and there really isn't a chance in hell any developer would sacrifice the opportunity to exploit the reality.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 06. 2....... on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 2:44 pm:
From The Observer Tribune
Resident wonders if library will open
07/10/2006

EDITOR:
It has been six years now since the proposed merger for a Joint Mendham, Mendham Township library was conceived.It looked like the plans were finally going to move forward with the settling of the location behind West Field. Now according to a recent article in your paper, a group from Mendham ("Mendham Matters") would like too scrap the plan and start over.

They say that the library should be located in the center of Mendham. Where is that? There is really no clear cut center in Mendham that could provide the space for an appropriate sized library and adequate parking. How can the Mendham Village shopping center be considered the true center of the town?

It is preposterous to consider building on a second floor of the shopping center building. Concern for Route 24 traffic- nothing could be worse than the existing horrendous traffic situation at the shopping center now- along with the inadequate parking are both issues.
Where would visitors to the library park their cars?

What about the increase in children traffic walking through the congested parking lot? How about elderly or disabled citizens climbing stairs to the library.

The West field location is in ideal location, where adequate parking would be available along with an appropriately sized facility.

I don't understand the hardliners, who seem to want to oppose consideration for any joint venture with the township, despite the cost savings and efficiencies that can be made.

All any one in Mendham has to do is drive four miles west on Route 24 and visit a model library jointly developed utilized by Chester Borough and Chester Township citizens.

JOSEPH LARSEN
Country Lane
Mendham

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 07. 2....... on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:24 am:
There were a couple of references to the merged library in the minutes from the last two meetings of the Township Committee in 2006.

Mayor Krieg reported on a conversation he had with the Borough Mayor regarding the Joint Library of the Mendhams.
...
Mayor Krieg discussed the pending agreement for the donation of land for the Library of the Mendhams.
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Mr. Schrier made a motion to authorize the Mayor to sign an Agreement between the Township of Mendham , the Borough of Mendham and Mount Hermon Hills, L.L.C. to Make a Gift of Land for the Construction of a Library, subject to final review by Mr. Falcon; Ms. Florek seconded the motion.


Funny how the minutes report, on what was reported, without reporting on what was in the reports. It seems that we don't have an honest politician in either of the Mendhams, as it appears there still is a "politically" correct insistence on using terminology like "donation" and "Gift" when the facts clearly demonstrate the land is being exchanged (purchased) for development perks that have a value in excess of the properties real-world asset value.

This kind of purely elective (no vital ethical obligation) spending by government should only be engaged in through the consent of the governed (by a substantial consensus). At minimum the council and committee members should seek public endorsement through voter referendum.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 07. 07. 2....... on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 10:46 am:
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Upon motion duly made and seconded the Committee went into closed session at 6:10 p.m. Joining the Committee were Mendham Borough Mayor Neil Henry, Mendham Borough Engineer Paul Ferriero and Rick Blood, President of the Library Of The Mendhams. The purpose of this meeting was to update all concerned parties with current information relating to the LOTM site. Mr. Ferriero reviewed the history of the site proposed to be donated by the D’Neufville family and the various restrictions that could hinder development. Mayor Henry reviewed other possible sites that were looked at as well as a site in Mendham Borough that has recently been brought to the attention of the LOTM board and the governing bodies of the Mendhams. Those present this evening agreed to poll the other members of their respective bodies and if all are in agreement, to proceed with preliminary exploration of the newly identified site.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 07. 131... on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 8:40 am:
I just found out that the library is going to be built behind the stores on 24 were the town parking lots are

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 07. 07. 156... on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 5:54 pm:
If you found that out you are amazing since no decision to build a library anywhere has been made. The DeNeufville tract is the only site that any work has been performed on i.e. engineering. Due to environmental issues with the DeNeufville site alternate sites behind the Methodist Church and the Pitney estate on Cold Hill Rd. have been looked at, but no decisions made.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 07. 131... on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 11:57 am:
look ass wipe thats were its going ask around

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By 07. 07. 156... on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 9:30 pm:
why not ask the library of the mendham's board who has not even made a decision on this. the church owns the property and until they are willing to sell it and the library has the money to buy it no one is going to build anything

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