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Mendham Borough Deer Management
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     By 06. 06. on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 8:40 am: |
| Does anyone have any idea how the Deer Management program is going so far for the 2006 season that started last week? Any problems with anybody going into India Brook Park or any problems using patriots path? |
| By 06. 2....... on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 9:55 am: |
I haven't heard of anything, but on Tuesday morning a did run across this wet blood on my path to the park.
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| By 06. 2....... on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 5:52 pm: |
| I was down at India brook Park around 6:00 pm and there were three SUVs with Deer management signs in the windshield. Apparently this town is using the $10[?] signs as "paper" for hunting permits. Every three days I pay more in cigarette taxes than these sadistic fucks have to pay to shoot arrows at mammals in our public parks, for a whole season... damn you people suck. |
| By 06. 110... on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 8:52 pm: |
Kill all of the deer. Please. I don't want lyme disease from those fuckers again.
And they're good eating too. :} yummmmmmmmmm |
| By 06. 2....... on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
| Thanks for the redundantlly pointless contribution... As has been pointed out many many many times the argument isn't about killing deer... it's about controlling their population in an effective and humane way. Personally I would vote to eradicate the entire deer population in New Jersey. Deer have no status as a part of the living environment-- no appreciation as a wild animal, and no respect as the farmed animal, which they are in practical fact. We have laws against using a bow and arrow to kill cattle, pigs, even chickens... yet it's a acceptable horror to impose on Deer? This hypocrisy is nothing short of disgusting. Civilization is about acquiring knowledge of facts and principles and there are no facts or principles that make our recreational exploitation of deer any different from legalizing cockfights, dogfights, or bullfights. Erase the principal a little harder and we might as well slide back to lynching niggers, mexicans, or fucking wops... as stated, you people suck, and the payback is the uncivilized world you doom the human race to live in, as it ignorantly marches toward its own eventual annihilation. |
| By 06. 06. 06. 72... on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 2:50 pm: |
| I love deer. They taste good. And they make good targets. |
| By 06. 2....... on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 4:45 pm: |
| Well you really intellectualated in a barbrilliant retortation there. ...and only three previews to get it right... maybe you'll be farting multi syllables soon. |
| By 06. 111... on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 6:46 pm: |
| Apparently 15 Deer have been taken so far in the first week. Thats a pretty good start! |
| By 06. 2....... on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 7:27 pm: |
Pretty good start to accomplishing what? 1/3 of the deer population is killed every year... it accomplishes absolutely nothing in controlling long-term over population. We could harvest 20 million American humans, and birthrates would increase into irrelevancy the overall meaningful significance of the harvest.
We've publicly paid to entertain 15 hunters who enjoy inflicting unnecessary pain and suffering on feeling creatures... we've accomplished nothing more. As stated you people suck, and I hope the the gods of fortune, if not the nonexistent God of justice, give you just what you have earned. |
| By 06. 111... on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 2:27 pm: |
| What suggestion do you have Gary in helping to control what you have called an "over population of deer?" We all can't wait to hear this??? |
| By 06. 2....... on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 8:26 am: |
Asking me what I would do, considering I have values very different from most people (ie: I believe that humans have a responsibility commensurate to their greater intelligence) isn't going to get us anywhere. The important issue is what should public policy be. I would suggest that if people sincerely want to fix the problem they must think in terms of engineered efficiency rather than recreation. I would suppose there are only two ways to reduce population, sterilization and extermination. I would suggest we use both approaches as practicality permits. Deer are not that much different than any other heard animal... Like cows or sheep they can be easily "rounded up" when necessary. Obviously, farmers don't "hunt" their animals one at a time, when it's time to move them to different pasture or such.... they corral them. Well, I would simply suggest instead of feeding deer to pick them off--in a disgustingly cruel manner--one at a time... that we corral (trap) them instead in large portable fencing. How exactly we exterminate them, once they are corraled, is not an issue worth arguing beyond stating that it should be in a manner that is as humane as is practical... lethal (or sterilizing) injection, poison, gas, guillotine, machine gun... whenever it takes.
The primary point is, the "mother nature bitch" is no longer controlling deer population--through her cruel mechanisms of disease and predation. ... so the responsibility falls upon us who have civilized nature to provide for a civilized mechanism to control deer overpopulation. I would argue that there's little purpose served in maintaining a wild deer population and that the entire wild deer population should be eradicated (they do make perfectly good zoo animals). As I have stated deer are not appreciated as a wild creature, and are offered none of the protections afforded farm animals. Put simply, if we can't treat them right, we shouldn't be able to treat them at all. Assuming that the hunting lobby will not tolerate statewide eradication-- At absolute minimum, a control program that is actually going to practically control deer population must reduce the breeding population some 80 to 90 percent, to levels consistent with what they were in the 1970's.
It should be understood that deer overpopulation, was deliberately caused by the Department of Fish and Game. They wanted to improve hunting opportunities so they deliberately restricted yearly kills TO FORCE a population increase. This deer mess isn't an accident, it was caused by foolish people (your government) allowing a self-interest hunters lobby to control public policy. Unfortunately, in spite of a six year old deer management program that has accomplished absolutely nothing, you still haven't figured out that the wrong people are leading the parade. |
| By 06. 116... on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 6:58 pm: |
| You should run for the town council Gary! Mosher for councilman 2007!!! |
| By 06. 2....... on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 9:36 pm: |
Here are few sound clips from the last meeting: This first one kind of undoes the Mayor's "they die immediately" theory. Than there is this kind of interesting "creepy people" description of park users by the mayor... kind of begging for the "it takes one to know one" line. The greatest hit might be this Witczak-the-Weasel warning not to mess with the Coppers and their "hunting" paraphernalia... shooting at the dinner table seems more hitman than huntman.
 
I did a little woods walking down at India brook and found this killing field/breakfast nook. I didn't read the sign at the time, so I didn't look for the camera.... anyone know what kind of camera is used, and what it is for? |
| By 06. 2....... on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 5:52 am: |
Deer Management Hunter's
Greg Hopf
Peter Hafemeister
Michael Paszko
Joseph Foster Sr.
Joseph Foster Jr.
John Forlenza Jr.
Anthony Piccinno
Alfred Coscia
Rodney Robbins
James Lombardi
Michael Poe
Anthony Mercurio
Chris Levedag
Douglas Gant
Frank Forte
Steven Bittman
Richard Bittman
Andrew Agens
Robert Ullrich
Raymond Oakes
Glenn Lubertazzi
Albert Teats
Robin Struble
Thomas Bedell
Robert Kerr
Christopher Hopf
Dennis Sterzel
John Kovachs Jr.
Leo Smith
William Taquinto
Fernando (Mike) Costa
Tom Costanza
Fredrick (Rick) Becker |
| By 06. 98... on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 3:42 pm: |
| Sounds like a lot of villages are missing their village idiot during hunting season. Weeeheeeee |
| By 06. 140... on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 1:31 am: |
| I happened onto this board because I saw something on TV that my curiosity could not resist. This bad hair, bad teeth guy taking up the whole screen. I had to see what this person was talking about. Wow, comical at best. One of those disconnected, disappointed with themselves liberals. I can respect other points of view, when they are intelligently represented. However, anyone that refers to any president as a "retard", is low class and will never be taken seriously. Stay out of politics and brush your teeth! |
| By 06. 140... on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 1:36 am: |
| Those of you that have all the answers in the form of generic statements regarding hunting of deer should do some research. Hunters provide more funding for the welfare of the fish and game in this state than any PETA, freinds of animals or anti-hunting group combined. Your liberal friends in Princeton, NJ spent over 200,000 to have deer killed in a controlled manner 3 years ago. You know how? Throwing nets over groups of feeding deer, then approaching each floundering, distressed deer with a spring loaded contraption that drives a bolt into the head of the animal. Wow that's much better than selectively taking a deer with an arrow that will cuase death in meer minutes or even seconds. And here is realty check for you: bowhunters pay license fees for this. No cost to the community! But hey, lets inject the animal with birth control instead. Beyond the cost and effectiveness of that method, how is it right to start injecting 50% of the animal population with chemicals? Next time you want to degrade a hunter, remember this- hunters don't just walk into the woods and shoot a deer. Hunters spend many hours in the field, watching wildlife and appreciating it, much more than any non-hunter that merely looks out the window now and again and spots an animal in thier yard. |
| By 06. 2....... on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 2:58 am: |
I happened onto this board because I saw something on TV that my curiosity could not resist. This bad hair, bad teeth guy taking up the whole screen.
but I do have lovely eyes
I had to see what this person was talking about. Wow, comical at best. One of those disconnected, disappointed with themselves liberals.
better than a full of shit fascist conservative
I can respect other points of view, when they are intelligently represented.
of course the book cover can't have bad hair or teeth
However, anyone that refers to any president as a "retard", is low class and will never be taken seriously.
Seriously, anyone who can't admit he is a retard, is to retarded to be reading anything, let alone this message.
Stay out of politics and brush your teeth!
and you know where you can shove your advice.
Those of you that have all the answers in the form of generic statements regarding hunting of deer should do some research.
but don't pay attention to the facts that demonstrate that we are inhumanely farming deer and not reducing their population.
Hunters provide more funding for the welfare of the fish and game in this state than any PETA, freinds of animals or anti-hunting group combined.
If that's your definition of welfare why don't we shoot arrows into poor people for their own good.
Your liberal friends in Princeton, NJ spent over 200,000 to have deer killed in a controlled manner 3 years ago.
I am under no reasonable obligation to defend any, or every, stupid experiment performed with college grant money
You know how? Throwing nets over groups of feeding deer, then approaching each floundering, distressed deer with a spring loaded contraption that drives a bolt into the head of the animal.
I think the fact that nets are not common farm hardware should have given them a clue.
Wow that's much better than selectively taking a deer with an arrow that will cuase death in meer minutes or even seconds.
... or hours or days
And here is realty check for you: bowhunters pay license fees for this.
less than the tax I pay on one carton of cigarettes
No cost to the community!
and no benefit either as taking a 1/3 of the deer population year keeps the animals younger, more reproductive, and less prone to natural attrition.
But hey, lets inject the animal with birth control instead. Beyond the cost and effectiveness of that method, how is it right to start injecting 50% of the animal population with chemicals?
News flash, every thing you eat is injected with chemicals
Next time you want to degrade a hunter, remember this- hunters don't just walk into the woods and shoot a deer.
yeah, fortunately they sometimes shoot each other.
Hunters spend many hours in the field, watching wildlife and appreciating it
kind of like Nazi appreciation of the Jews... or European appreciation for the herds of Native Americans.
, much more than any non-hunter that merely looks out the window now and again and spots an animal in thier yard.
Frankly, absent a big rack the average deer isn't much to look at. This "Liberal" says kill them all as we are not willing to pay the price to rationally and humanely manage their population. |
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